Waiting
For Guffman (1996)
Alarmingly in-depth thoughts by Grovemiller and Kirkbride
Dustin: Okay my friend, this month you
chose Waiting for Guffman. Having seen it a few
times now, I think the plot can be summed up pretty easily:
A Missouri town is having its 150th anniversary. As part
of the celebration, they’re having a local “star”
from Broadway write, produce and direct a musical about
the town’s history. During the process, they think
that a big producer from Broadway (Mort Guffman) is coming
to see the show, and everyone gets their hopes up for
making it a performance of a lifetime and they’ll
all end up on Broadway. The big problem is that nobody,
absolutely nobody, among the characters is really
that good of an actor, singer or dancer.
DJ: "Waiting For Guffman"
is a kind of uncomfortable type of funny to a high school
and college theatre nerd like me. It makes me laugh, damn
right it does, but the hijinks of the sadly untalented
director Corky St. Clair and his troupe of amateur performers
hits me a bit... close to home. I love it -- but I relate
to it. I'm guessing part of you does, too, Mr. Dustin.
Dustin: I hate this movie. Really.
DJ: WHAT WHAT WHAT???
Dustin: Well, I hate the way it makes
me feel. The writing is brilliant, and the acting doesn't
really get much better than what you get here. But the
problem is it's TOO good -- it rubs some raw nerves. I've
done community theatre before. It scares me. This was
like having flashback of 'nam.
DJ: Oh?
Dustin: I was not really in 'nam.
DJ: Well, I was... wait... no I wasn't.
That wasn't me. But I know exactly what you mean. It's
HEEEEEELARIOUS. Goddamn spot on, to the point of almost
being a memory. I start to wonder which character I was,
and I equate other characters to people I know.
Dustin: Did you figure out who your film
equivalent was?
DJ: Jesus, I don't know. I worry
sometimes I was like Fred Willard's travel agent. Completely
clueless and thinking he's great. Other moments I think
I had some of Eugene Levy's awkward, nervous dentist who
loves acting, but is completely out of his element at
times. And, of course, I relate to Corky St. Clair (Christopher
Guest)'s Kriss Kross inspired backward jeans and delusions
of grandeur. What about you?
Dustin: I'm not a precise match to anyone
that I can think of... maybe Bob Balaban's character of
the Music Director, Lloyd Miller. Then again, I could
just be saying that because it's fun to say "Bob
Balaban."
DJ: Yes, it is.

Dustin:
Comparisons aside, though... two things that need cleared
up right at the front of this: Eugene Levy is a twisted
genius, and Fred Willard is a god.
DJ: Absolutely. And Catherine O'Hara
is right up there with them. Genius abounds in this silly,
oddly touching flick.
Dustin: I mean, it was another Christopher
Guest movie, "Best In Show" that first made
me think Willard was a god, but going back and seeing
this reinforces it.
DJ: Yeah! He has a knack for that clueless
kind of overly confident yet endearing character.
Dustin: And maybe always on the verge
of making the other characters want to punch him.
DJ: All of these performers, Guest (also
the director), Levy, Willard, O'Hara -- and surprisingly,
Parker Posey -- really flourish in the improvisational
acting style of this "mockumentary."
Dustin: Oh, absolutely... it's a hallmark
of all of Guest's work, but his actors consistently do
something in this one that is very, very difficult --
they act like they're bad actors, and they act flawlessly
even though they're improving. Timing wise, that's maybe
one of the hardest things to pull off. To boot, Guest
is a master at crafting excellent "uncomfortable
moments" in the midst of all this.
DJ: I love the uncomfortable laugh!
Dustin: One of the best examples of what
these people were up to in the midst of this film , pointing
out Catherine O'Hara during the actual performance of
Corky's show, there's a scene where the cast is supposed
to be making noise as a crowd of people. If you pay close
enough attention, you can make out that O'Hara is actually
"talking" to one of the other actors by going
"hubbub, hubbub" over and over. That is just
brilliant.
DJ: YES!!!! It's so sad yet almost...
I don't know... inspirational to see these completely
inept people truly TRY to make a great play. It sounds
so mean, but I think they all have an odd sort of dignity
in the film, too.
Dustin: It's beautiful because the actors
nail it so perfectly. Willard and O'Hara's characters
are the ones that I find the most grating, because they're
"those" actors... the kind that are totally
egotistical and overblown, almost divas, and they go out
of their way to point out that they're more "experienced"
at doing theatre than others. As if they're somehow above
sticking to the rules of the game… and yet, they're
so terrible!
DJ: It's that self-delusional ignorance
that’s EVERYWHERE in community theatre! I've acted
with the old guy who's a retired schoolteacher who thinks
he's DeNiro and gives advice to everyone else.
Dustin: Oh yeah. My most common one is
the kind that thinks he or she can direct the show better
than the actual stage director. The same kind that uses
technical terms incorrectly.
DJ: There’s so much theatrical
jargon and very real bits in the movie. It's too funny
for real life, but it feels so authentic.
Dustin: We've talked so little thus far
about Guest's character, Corky. Now, it's fair to say
that he was playing him as obviously gay (although not
comfortably, since it's a subtext in the movie that he
has a "wife," although nobody has ever really
seen her, strangely). Do you think that he was playing
it as an unfair stereotype?
DJ: He is extremely cartoony. And
there is the feeling that people will laugh AT him for
being gay, but that's not really the point. I mean, I
know gay guys who love Corky and find him hilarious. It
goes back to the overall good nature of the movie. Corky’s
sexuality isn’t necessarily the joke, and he isn't
JUST a joke or one note . He's, in a way, a sad figure,
stuck in a small town, with dreams that he'll NEVER fulfill.
But he keeps trying. He wants to make it to Broadway.
His "gayness" is so over the top... but he's
not just gay, he's in THEATRE! Still, I think the character
has too much heart and too many sides to be offensive.
Dustin: Yeah, I pretty much agree with
that breakdown, although he too displays a lot of the
same flawed qualities as the rest of the characters...
he doesn't realize that he's really not that good, and
is also a bit of a bully. This is especially true when
he's dealing with the town council, tying to get money,
and when he's stepping all over Bob Balaban's character.
DJ: "I hate you and your ass face!"
You're right -- he's a bully. It's a childishness... It's
because he's an "artist" and is overly emotional.
That's the excuse, and it's so funny to watch.
Dustin: On the whole, my non-theatre
savvy girlfriend really enjoyed watching this with me.
So does that mean that it's not just about the inside
jokes?
DJ: No… even though our talking
about it may give that impression. These characters, though
exaggerated, become real people. We see glimpses into
their lives ("...workin' at the DQ... makin' the
cones"). There's more to them than just the theatre
jokes. It adds to it, much the same way knowledge of sports
adds to, I dunno, sports movies, but just because I didn't
get into basketball that much doesn't mean I can't enjoy
Hoosiers, you know? There's a different level of enjoyment
to the theatre people, maybe, but there's so much that's
just blatantly funny. Like… Eugene Levy's lazy eye
is funny.
Dustin: And of course, the references
to Fred Willard's penis reduction.
DJ: Oh my god! That is insane. Plus drunk
Catherine O'Hara -- it's great. She's a hilarious, too-real
person. Great performance. This movie has so many characters,
but they all get a chance to shine.
Dustin:
Even the small parts, like David Cross as the UFO expert.
DJ: Oh, the UFO stuff! The guy who, on
the anniversary of his abduction, has no feeling in his
buttocks! First time I watched that, a friend had to leave
the room he was laughing so hard.
Dustin: It’s a good one to see
in a group.
DJ: Hell, if you haven't watched it,
go rent the thing. It's one of the all-time funniest movies
ever made. You can quote me on that. Put it on the DVD
special edition, 10th anniversary box in a couple years.
Dustin: Ha! Yeah, I'm sure that Christopher
Guest is going to read this and will make it a point to
do so. Well, I guess you're just a little like Corky...
a guy with a dream.
DJ: We all have a little Corky in us.
Dustin: …
DJ: Classy.