Spaceballs
(1987)
More horseshit by Grovemiller and Kirkbride
Dustin: Picture it… the late 80s.
The home video market was booming. A strapping young lad
by the name of Dustin Grovemiller convinced his mother
to let him rent a Mel Brooks movie called "Spaceballs,"
He would go on to watch it three times in two days.
DJ: Me, too! Almost EXACTLY the same...
I begged and begged for your mom to rent it for me, but
she told me to fuck off and bother my own Mom. Still!
I rented it, loved it... even bought the novelization
and loved that!
Dustin: It might have been the funniest
thing I had ever seen at the time and to this day, it
still remains atop my list of comedies, maybe not as quotable
as a "Blazing Saddles," but still rich with
possibilities.
DJ: Okay, do you mean atop your list
of ALL comedies... or atop your list of Mel Brooks comedies?
Dustin: You know, I'm starting to be
concerned about that intro... was it a little too "Golden
Girls”? I don't want people to know I watched “The
Golden Girls”.
DJ: Wait... “Golden Girls”?
What...?
Dustin: Oops. Okay, ignoring that awkward
moment, to answer your question, it's both - it's #3 on
my Mel Brooks list, and probably in my Top Ten "Casual
Comedy" list.
DJ: Are you saying Bea Arthur's my momma?
Wait. Uh... Okay-- top three Mel Brooks, check.
Dustin: No, man... Estelle Getty.
DJ: Word! So, you're a Mel Brooks fan
from way back?
Dustin: Pretty much... “Spaceballs”
would be the first movie I knew to be a "Mel Brooks"
movie, though. I guess it's possible I'd seen one before
that.
DJ: I think that “Spaceballs”
was my first encounter with him, but with it my dad started
talking about “Blazing Saddles” and “Young
Frankenstein”.
Dustin: And those are the two that rank
higher for me.
DJ: And, honestly, the humor as much
more kiddie in “Spaceballs”. I mean, even
though “Blazing Saddles” had the best fart
joke scene ever, it commented on racism.
Dustin: Well, “Spaceballs”
was also a colossal poke at merchandising.
DJ: The merchandising stuff, yeah, it
was kind of clever, along with the whole environmental
"message" of the movie--the “Spaceballs”
have used up all their clean air and need to steal it
from a neighboring planet-- But it seems labored. Instead
of being at all adult, “Spaceballs” was like,
the lil' late eighties kid's gateway Mel Brooks movie...
much like how marijuana is the gateway drug.
Dustin: Oh absolutely, because it made
fun of stuff that we KNEW. And even then, I understood
the brilliance of Rick Moranis. It was a lot of his almost
slapstick-ish portrayal that made the movie work. He was
a perfectly balanced bumbling straight man.
DJ:
That and he had a HUGE helmet with a lil’ tie. But,
okay, Dustin, there's something you said about making
the movie "work"... Now, I LOVED it as a kid,
l admit that. But after watching it again, years later,
I feel that “Spaceballs”, like me, hasn’t
aged well. Did you rewatch the movie and find yourself
really laughing? Or were you enjoying it because you enjoyed
it as a lil' Dustin?
Dustin: No, I still think there's a lot
of enjoyable humor in there.
DJ: See, okay, and I admit I do fear
I'm losing my sense of humor, but I found it to be mostly
one broadly played, wink-wink groaner after another.
Dustin: I think the difference is, I
laugh much less at the actual "jokes" now. The
only "joke" that I still laugh at every time
in recent viewings is whenever the Spaceballs’ tympani
player is on screen. Instead I find the humor in the performances
by the cast.
DJ: Ah! Okay, you laugh at different
things and we both agree Rick Moranis is the best in this
movie... But Bill Pullman? Joan Rivers? I dunno.
Dustin: Oh, Bill Pullman's great!
DJ: He seems drunk and/or reading his
lines off of cue cards! Bill Pullman's great?!? I'm shocked
and appalled!
Dustin: Again with a good balance in
his delivery. He's an anti-hero and a straight man at
the same time.
DJ: He does have the more thankless role
in these kinds of movies.
Dustin: Right, he tends to get overlooked
in an ensemble cast like this because good ol' John Candy
as Barf easily is the one you're going to be thinking
of.
DJ: Yeah, he and Rick Moranis are the
two everyone (well, me and, uh... my friend Mike Taylor
from 5th grade, probably)... thinks of when thinking of
this movie.
Dustin: Fuckin' A... and do you ever
think of Daphne Zuniga?
DJ: Never. Actually, watching it, my
girlfriend (who should get a medal of honor for sitting
through it with me) thought she was the chick from “Growing
Pains”. But, how's about my man Dick Van Patton
representin'! I forgot he was in this!
Dustin: Figures you'd like Van Patton...
he's one of the characters I think about the least.
DJ: I think it's just more my love of
all things “Eight Is Enough”. But, for real,
chief, I gotta be honest, I found this movie to be one
groaner after another. Constant mugging, odd, lingering
shots, and just... I dunno, unfunny "humor".
It made me sad because I LOVED it so much as a kid!
Dustin: Get real! Even the "We're
at 'now' now" scene?
DJ: I was going to make that the second
piece of bread on my "critical sandwich": good,
bad, good, you know? AND that "now" now scene,
which was a lil' poke at the then burgeoning home video
market where the characters watch a video of “Spaceballs”
to figure out what's going on and end up watching the
exact scene they're in is one of the scenes that still
totally works for me.
Dustin: Again, that's Rick Moranis for
you, although George Wyner is another actor deserving
of much credit.
DJ: Was he Col. Sanderz (oh, the puns
and witticisms)?
Dustin: Yep... and his role is another
very interesting one.
DJ: "We can't stop! It's too dangerous!"
Weird, I actually quoted that recently.
Dustin: He's kind of the comedy "yang"
to the Rick Moranis "Yin". When one of them
is playing the bit, the other automatically becomes the
foil of the gag.
DJ: Yeah. It's very old school, kinda
vaudeville stuff sometimes.
Dustin: Oh, absolutely!
DJ: I don't know that it ever is particularly
"good" or "witty" vaudeville banter,
though. Again, it seemed to me like they were trying REALLY
hard, but I remember laughing my ass of at it back in
the "day", so who do you believe? 10-year-old
DJ or 42-year-old DJ?
Dustin: I'm beginning to think you're
just cold and dead inside.
DJ: Oh, certainly! I'm totally cold and
dead inside! That's beside the point.
Dustin: You need to start watching “Golden
Girls” again. Get some homespun Betty White wisdom
into your soul.
DJ: They did know how to do things back
in St. Olaf, but keep your mind on “Spaceballs”,
dude!
Dustin: Sorry, sorry.
DJ: So, John Candy as the "mog"
(man/dog) with a waggy tail and eating a lot hijinks still
tickles your funny bone? As do all the puns and banter
and strained slapstick of this flick?
Dustin: The movie is still funny to me,
but the jokes do start to wear -- although there are still
many viable bits. But again, I say that I find less humor
in the script, and more in the performances.
DJ: Right. Okay, so it's more your appreciation
for the actors... some of whom... (cough) Mel Brooks (cough)…
Were kinda starting to slip, but you still had a soft
spot for 'em?
Dustin: Yes, we've yet to discuss Mel.
I've never been a huge fan of Mel Brooks the actor.
DJ: God, I mean, this was, even if you
like it, kinda the beginning of the end for him movie
wise, you know? I mean, as a kid I liked this, but then
that “Robin Hood: Men In Tights” and... oh,
I puke in my mouth a little just saying it... “Dracula
Dead & Loving It”... you ever seen his post-“Spaceballs”
shit? Sad, man. Sad.
Dustin: Yeah, I can't think of anything
he did after this that I really liked.
DJ: Now, don't get me wrong; I ain't
done shit to be proud of, but to go from “Young
Frankenstein” to “Dracula Dead & Loving
It”, well, that's a tragedy on the scale of the
Hindenberg. And “Spaceballs” seemed to be
the beginning of that descent.
Dustin: Yes, yes... but I think we can
safely agree that “Spaceballs” was much more
on the "not exploding" end of that scale. Like,
“Spaceballs” is much more Bea Arthur than
Rue McClanahan.
DJ: See, now, everyone knows I'm Bea
Arthur's number one fan, so I'm down with that analogy
to a point.
Dustin: No way, Estelle Getty owned that
show.
DJ: Okay! Again, why are you having such
a hard time staying on track? Did you get “The Golden
Girls” DVD??? DID YOU??
Dustin: Why in God's name would I do
that? I'm not some kind of freaking weirdo!
DJ: Don't play innocent with me, Grovemiller,
you sick, sick bastard. I think we should just let this
“Golden Girls” obsession lie for now. Save
it for your therapy.
Dustin: I didn't even know there was
a “Golden Girls” DVD until your sick ass brought
it up.
DJ: Yeah, right, like I'm the sicko obsessed
with the “Golden Girls”. Sure.
Dustin: Stop trying to steer the conversation
away from “Spaceballs”.
DJ: Me? Huh? Fine. So, you still dug
“Spaceballs”, eh? Did you buy and not rent?
Dustin: Oh, I've owned it for years.
Second DVD I ever bought.
DJ: Wow! You're an interesting fella.
I'll give you that.
Dustin: It was on sale. I bought it a
few days after I got "Batman"
DJ: You mean the Tim Burton “Batman”,
not the sixties one we reviewed, right?
Dustin: Yeah, the Burton, but, anyway,
the reason I wanted us to take a look at “Spaceballs”
is because... there's a sequel coming, I hear.
DJ: Shit.
Dustin: (cackles maniacally)
DJ: Do you know the words to the “Spaceballs”
"rock" song? "Spaceballs! WATCH OUT!"
Good stuff. In a horrible, cringe inducing way.
Dustin: "All we know is what we
need and all we do are dirty deeds, we're the SPACEBALLS."
DJ: NOOOOOO! You DO know the lyrics!
Ahhhh!
Dustin: “SPACEBAAAAAALLLLLS!”
DJ: Man, we're all over the place.
Dustin: Might be sign that it's time
to wrap it up. It's almost 11... Lifetime has some good
shows on at 11.
DJ: STOP WITH THE “GOLDEN GIRLS”
SHIT, YOU SICKO!
Dustin: Did I say anything about "Golden
Girls? No. You keep bringing it up.
DJ: Lies! Oh! I gotta mention one part
that I always loved, and that my aforementioned g-friend
laughed at...was the “Alien” parody. When
the lil' alien pops out and starts singing...
Dustin: Oh yeah, and actually getting
John Hurt to do it.
DJ: Yeah, with the lil' alien spats and
shit?
Dustin: That was awesome, even if I didn't
know who John Hurt was until later on.
DJ: She laughed for real and even rewound
it. I had to giggle, too. That part's good. "Water
my ass! Get this guy some pepto bismol!" Still good
stuff, dude. Though, I have to say, as much as it saddens
me, “Spaceballs” has lost it's magic for this
old fan. I actually envy you for holding onto the joy.
Dustin: Well, I'm sorry to hear that...
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on liking this
one.
DJ: I guess so. Let me say, though, that
I'm not trying to be negative or something, I wanted to
still like it... I mean, JM J Bullock's in it! But
I just couldn't. So, what for next time? “The Golden
Girls” on DVD?
Dustin: Again, you're going out of your
way to bring it up.
DJ: Shit! You caught me for real that
time...